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PostSubject: Irrefutable   Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:21 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Irrefutable   Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:29 pm

your bars are SIK!
your lyrics are hard,
only one criticism,
to me it sounds like ur rushin what your sayin in your bars?
but then thats just me,
im only one person in like millions upon millions of people,
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PostSubject: Re: Irrefutable   Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:34 pm

Just warning you for next time bro, you can only post up 1 track at a time. Otherwise it's a lot of ish to get through.
Respect for signing up though, i will check it out asap.
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PostSubject: Re: Irrefutable   Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:35 pm

im gonna choose to ignore the criticism and take the compliment hahaha
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PostSubject: Re: Irrefutable   Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:37 pm

@Bundy.... k cheers for the advice
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PostSubject: Re: Irrefutable   Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:42 pm

It's cool man, just about to listen to Lunar God one. I'll keep you posted.
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PostSubject: Re: Irrefutable   Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:43 pm

haha its all gd Smile
keep doin what ur doin!
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PostSubject: Re: Irrefutable   Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:44 pm

old jedi mind tricks style all over that ish
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PostSubject: Re: Irrefutable   Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:50 pm

Really i agree man, the lyrics are dope.
Just you are cramming too much into each line, it's like you mumble some just to get through all the lines.
The presence could be better, like try to pronounce each word with it's own feeling.

Shit man, i'm just someone like you trying to make music so i'm just going on what i can think of by experience too.

Lyrics are overly dope though.
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PostSubject: Re: Irrefutable   Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:56 pm

im not gonna compromise lyrics for flow specially when if i had a decent mic there wouldnt be a problem


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PostSubject: Re: Irrefutable   Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:59 pm

plus i getting places doing what im doing so yeah...
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PostSubject: Re: Irrefutable   Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:07 pm

Look man don't take it as a diss, nobody here is trying to make you be who you're not, but i'm just saying from what i personally hear. Other people think differently.

People giving you crit isn't gonna hurt you.
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PostSubject: Re: Irrefutable   Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:08 pm

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im not gonna compromise lyrics for flow specially when if i had a decent mic there wouldnt be a problem

It's not all down to Mic's though, even on a whack mic the best people would still be the best if you get me.

I feel the lyrics though, i told you that already.
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PostSubject: Re: Irrefutable   Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:15 pm

What good is lyrics and content when you cant understand them cuz of mumbling and crammin though? Plus who wants to listen to someone with no flow? Like they said, no diss, the content is nice, but the flow is off and you rush, it aint appealing to listen to, plus hard to understand, so that renders your content over flow arguement void. Furthermore, why join a forum and post music for dudes to listen to then not take the crit. If you cant take constructive crit then dont do music.

Like i said, i aint trying come on here and cuss you down, but think about it.

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PostSubject: Re: Irrefutable   Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:24 pm

and im still one the best with a whack mic just if i had a full studio and nice mic the few words your complaining about would be loud and clear.... if thats the only criticism you have well then really there is no problem i could give criticism to the style of every rapper on the face of earth...
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PostSubject: Re: Irrefutable   Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:26 pm

really the problem is that my mic forces me to yell constantly
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PostSubject: Re: Irrefutable   Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:33 pm

how are you recording,
could you not increase the gain, on the channel into which your recording,
to compensate?
which mic are you using? and which daw?
do you use a compressor on your vocals to reduce the dynamic range?
these are all things that can be done in a cheap package,
even audacity, granted not aswell as logic, or the waves plug ins, but there's always a way Razz

we're not complaining just offerin constructive criticsm, with no hostility meant.
at the end of the day, its your decision, and you choice to flow however your comfortable, as music is something from the heart! if you do it purely to impress people, then thats just as bad as doin music purely to get paid.
ultimately as long as your happy with what you put out, thats all that matters,
we were just offering input, as an artist its up to you what you do with it Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Irrefutable   Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:35 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYaIgZ9rJmY < old track now you tell where there is mumbling
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PostSubject: Re: Irrefutable   Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:36 pm

im using coolpro and a c1-u behringer mic
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PostSubject: Re: Irrefutable   Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:38 pm

as for compression whoevers beat im on at the time does production
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PostSubject: Re: Irrefutable   Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:46 pm

o a USB mic?
i dont know whether they have an effect on quality,
i prefer working with xlr powered mics,
but i remember doin some work on some audio for one of my boys,
and that was recorded using a USB mic, and we managed to get some nice sounding track out of it.
I hear that,
as an artist though,
you always have final say as to how your vocals have been mixed down,
i personally sit in on mix down sessions on my vocals,
to make sure im 1000% happy before i release it for free download n stuff.

personally regarding the tracks,
they have sik content,
but again my personaly opinion is it feels like theres too much being said to fast,
but as you said earlier,
its takin you places,
so if its working for you,
thats all that matters ultimately Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Irrefutable   Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:55 pm

broke artist and broke university student = i use what i have, i get beats for free and production for free... so really i cant complain and personally i like those tracks despite your criticisms so yeah... like i said a upgraded mic and there will be no problems
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PostSubject: Re: Irrefutable   Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:58 pm

if you took a look at that old track i put up from when i had my last mic you clearly hear no mumbling ... fuck it ill chuck it up again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYaIgZ9rJmY
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PostSubject: Re: Irrefutable   Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:07 pm

definately,
but bro i think ur taking that criticism and thinkin it means were sayin ur not good at what you do,
ie. thinking of it in the extreme,
constructive criticism,
is not about highlightin what you do well,
but drawing attention to what you could improve on,
its naive to think that there's nothing any artist in the world cant improve on!
we all want to improve,
and criticism is the way to go.
i didnt hear so much mumbling personally, but i do hear that it sounds rushed,
thats my personal opinion,
u may not hear it, as you know your lyrics,
so when the track is playing, you cant hear it, as you know what is being said, as you wrote it.

others are sayin they can hear it,
and offering suggestions.
again, no1 is sayin ur shiiittt, cause your not, your content is sik,
but they have just offered a suggestion,
dont think its hate,
because it seems like your getting offended like it it.
all opinions offered are there to help you progress,
and as an artist,
you will get criticism everywhere you go,
its how you handle it,
how you adapt it, and incorporate it into your music,
thats will make you a successful artist.

take some time to read the comments again,
really read them, and see where people are hating,
you'll find they are just opinions we all have from hearing the tracks,
and at no point did any1 actually say they were bad,
they just commented on your flow.
that's all,
as i keep sayin,
what you do is apparantly working for you Smile
and that's ALL that ultimately matters right?
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PostSubject: Re: Irrefutable   Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:25 pm

question if my verses are rushed what is a bone thugs song ahahhahah... and that was the point is was making bundy said its not the mic i said it was in large part to do with the mic i provided evidence that its not even mumbling its just me not yelling at the mic... and that was it no offense taken... i just feel your blowing something tiny out of proportion
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